1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,914 (Man) There are moments in life when we all need a little help. 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,713 (Woman) Mr Bernard is a very mysterious man. 3 00:00:18,879 --> 00:00:22,474 | know this is mysterious Morocco, but we're not gonna lose our head. 4 00:00:31,879 --> 00:00:34,393 - (Woman) We're being watched. — Oh, come on. 5 00:00:34,559 --> 00:00:36,754 (Whistle Blows) 6 00:00:36,919 --> 00:00:39,308 Hey, look there. 7 00:00:42,999 --> 00:00:48,312 A statesman is to be killed, assassinated in London soon. 8 00:00:48,559 --> 00:00:54,270 (Man) If you tell even one word, your little boy will be in serious danger. 9 00:00:54,439 --> 00:00:57,237 \{Man 2) Those people kidnapped your boy in order to keep your mouth shut. 10 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,834 (Sobbing) | want my boy! 11 00:00:59,999 --> 00:01:03,469 \{Man) | don’t care who you fellas are gonna kill. All | want's that boy. 12 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,108 - (Woman) Why didn’t you tell me? - Where is he? 13 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,669 - Now sit down. - How dare you! 14 00:01:08,839 --> 00:01:11,114 Ben, what can we do by ourselves? 15 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,555 You have a very nice little boy, madam. 16 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,948 Where is he? 17 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:22,956 Hank McKenna! 18 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,919 Where's our son? Where have you got him? 19 00:01:35,559 --> 00:01:37,550 (Screams) 20 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,998 21 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,870 Daddy! 22 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,312 It's a scene from our new picture, The Man Who Knew Too Much. 23 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,075 As you know, Alfred Hitchcock has an uncanny knack 24 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:02,707 for coming up with the unusual in entertainment. 25 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,713 Well, The Man Who Knew Too Much can certainly be put in that category. 26 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,149 \{O'Connell\} In the early ‘30s, my father developed, with Charles Bennett, 27 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:15,516 a project based around the Bulldog Drummond stories. 28 00:02:15,679 --> 00:02:19,069 Bulldog Drummond was a kind of amateur James Bond. 29 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,834 And one of the story lines they were working on 30 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,911 involved the kidnapping of a baby 31 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,469 and international spying. 32 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,550 When that project fell through, 33 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,950 they kept the frame of the story 34 00:02:31,439 --> 00:02:34,078 and reshaped it into The Man Who Knew Too Much. 35 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,038 My father directed the first version of The Man Who Knew Too Much 36 00:02:40,759 --> 00:02:42,954 in England in 1934. 37 00:02:43,119 --> 00:02:45,110 The film was a huge success 38 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,118 and really built my father's reputation in England and in America as well. 39 00:02:54,119 --> 00:02:57,077 The title was taken from a collection of short stories 40 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,913 entitled The Man Who Knew Too Much, 41 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:02,868 by English novelist, G K Chesterton. 42 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:05,155 My father owned some of the stories 43 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,995 and simply decided to use the title for the film. 44 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:15,515 \{Murmuring) (Whispering) Don't breathe a word... to anyone. 45 00:03:19,159 --> 00:03:23,118 There were a lot of amazing visual sequences in the film. 46 00:03:23,279 --> 00:03:25,110 (Man) It smashed the window. 47 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,352 (0'Connell) A lot of humour, despite the grim subject matter. 48 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,036 Poor old boy. 49 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,316 - Five shillings. - Five shillings. 50 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:35,913 Give him five shillings for me, will you, please? 51 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:46,195 \{0'Connell) And a great, climactic scene during a concert at the Albert Hall. 52 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,239 (Choir) 53 00:04:02,959 --> 00:04:04,358 (Screams) 54 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,834 Sounds like it went off all right. 55 00:04:09,999 --> 00:04:11,796 | hope so, for all our sakes. 56 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,351 (O'Connell) The film was released in December, 1934, 57 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,397 and was very well received. 58 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,680 My father discussed doing a remake of it in the United States in 1941, 59 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:26,196 but he set the project aside until 1956. 60 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:30,069 Although 1 think my father was proud of his original version 61 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,071 of The Man Who Knew Too Much, 62 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,835 he once told French filmmaker, Francois Truffaut, 63 00:04:35,999 --> 00:04:38,559 that the first film was done by an amateur 64 00:04:38,719 --> 00:04:41,108 and the remake by a professional. 65 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,794 As far as the second The Man Who Knew Too Much, 66 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,155 he didn't want to remake it at all 67 00:05:01,319 --> 00:05:06,439 He didn't want to remake any of his films, but he owed one to Paramount, 68 00:05:06,599 --> 00:05:12,117 and they felt that that was the one that could adapt 69 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,554 to present day better than any of the others. 70 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,597 Hitch said to me one day, he said, 71 00:05:17,759 --> 00:05:20,353 "Do you think we oughta remake The Man Who Knew Too Much?’ 72 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,399 | said, "The Man Who Knew Too Much’? | never heard of that title before. 73 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,109 He said, "Didn't you see any of my pictures before we worked together?” 74 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,032 1 said, "Well, I certainly never saw that one.” 75 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,236 He said, "Will you get a print and look at it 76 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,868 and see whether we should remake that picture or not?” 77 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,669 So, I was able to get a print and looked at it. 78 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:43,799 Darling... where are you? 79 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,951 (Girl\} Mommy... 80 00:05:47,359 --> 00:05:49,350 Darling? 81 00:05:49,719 --> 00:05:51,710 Betty! 82 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,511 (Sobbing) Steady, old girl, steady. 83 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,752 (Coleman) So, after | saw this, 1 went back to the set 84 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,751 and Hitch said, "Well, what do you think?" 85 00:05:59,919 --> 00:06:04,197 | said, "Well, Hitch, all | can say is you and films have progressed together.” 86 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:08,833 I never would have said that to him if I'd known how much it'd hurt him 87 00:06:08,999 --> 00:06:10,830 but it really hurt him. 88 00:06:10,999 --> 00:06:13,467 And forever after that, | was sorry for saying it. 89 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,110 And he said, "Well, what about the gun coming around the curtain to fire?” 90 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:21,512 I said, "I love the touches in there, but I'm talking about the whole story.” 91 00:06:21,679 --> 00:06:25,957 Hitch was, of course, forming in his mind a new story completely. 92 00:06:26,119 --> 00:06:28,679 And, of course, that's what we finally ended up making 93 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,310 was a completely new story about The Man Who Knew Too Much. 94 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:39,872 In the case of The Man Who Knew Too Much, 95 00:06:40,039 --> 00:06:44,078 uh, Alfred Hitchcock wouldn't let me see... 96 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,552 the early picture or read the script. 97 00:06:47,719 --> 00:06:49,550 He wanted me to stay away from it. 98 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,598 What he did was sit me down and tell me a story. 99 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:58,393 And | took notes from it and went home and did an outline based on that. 100 00:06:58,759 --> 00:07:01,751 I had no knowledge at that time of the early picture. 101 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,118 If | did, | saw it when | was 12 years old or something and didn't recall it. 102 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,874 Betty. You know your child is going to cost me the match, don't you? 103 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,031 Well, she's your child as well as mine, isn't she? 104 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:15,032 Well, if | lose this game, I'l disown her forever. 105 00:07:17,319 --> 00:07:20,834 (Hayes) I created those characters partly out of what Hitch told me, 106 00:07:20,999 --> 00:07:23,957 and partly out of what | envisioned they should be like. 107 00:07:24,119 --> 00:07:28,590 Daddy, you sure I've never been to Africa before? 108 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,194 It looks familiar. 109 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,955 We saw the same scenery last summer driving to Las Vegas. 110 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,317 (Hayes) Hitch thought intensely about each scene. 111 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,110 He'd start to dissect it and tell me how he would use the camera. 112 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,999 On the way to the studio, he'd pick one scene 113 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,472 and think about it all the way, on how many ways he could do it. 114 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:54,029 And going home, he may have picked the same scene or another one. 115 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:56,474 And so used his time valuably. 116 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,676 Well, this eases the pain. 117 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:01,194 - What pain, Mommy? - Just an expression, 118 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,191 Can you take care of the driver? 119 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,191 My name's McKenna, Dr McKenna. 120 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,193 I'll take care of everything, sir. 121 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,194 (Hayes) Hitch would insert his own little Hitchcockian touches. 122 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,239 There's no question of it. And it's, of course, what made the films good. 123 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:18,867 They had solid people. 124 00:08:19,039 --> 00:08:21,314 They had good dialogue. 125 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,508 And mechanically, he had such an expertise for suspense. 126 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,999 He inserted it where you least suspected it was going to be. 127 00:08:39,319 --> 00:08:42,629 (Speaking French\} 128 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:45,632 (Coleman) While Hitch started working on his screenplay, 129 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:51,271 Doc Erickson, our production manager, and | flew to Marrakech 130 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,591 and met with the officials there. 131 00:08:59,479 --> 00:09:01,037 You couldn't make a film there 132 00:09:01,199 --> 00:09:03,952 until they had read and approved the screenplay 133 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,680 as is the case in most countries. 134 00:09:06,839 --> 00:09:10,514 And | told this story to the superintendent... 135 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:13,592 that was in charge of people coming there to make films. 136 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:15,750 Then he told me about Ramadan. 137 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,152 He said, "You know, Ramadan starts about the third of June, 138 00:09:20,319 --> 00:09:23,595 and you will not be able to film here during Ramadan, 139 00:09:23,759 --> 00:09:27,434 because the people, they go without food or water 140 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,194 from sunrise to sunset. 141 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:35,388 ‘It's very difficult for you, so you must plan to be here early enough 142 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:40,759 to finish filming before Ramadan starts.” 143 00:09:42,359 --> 00:09:43,678 144 00:09:45,319 --> 00:09:48,311 We went out and looked for locations 145 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,153 that we thought would be fine for the picture. 146 00:09:51,319 --> 00:09:54,834 - Isn't this exciting? - Just like the county fairs. 147 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,389 They got everything but the balloon ascension. 148 00:09:57,560 --> 00:10:00,791 And then Hitch had to concentrate on the casting. 149 00:10:00,959 --> 00:10:02,551 What's so funny about that? 150 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:07,394 Hitch and Jimmy Stewart had already agreed 151 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:10,233 to make The Man Who Knew Too Much 152 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:15,596 so that part of the casting was settled before we worked on the screenplay. 153 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,557 Daddy, come with us. We're going to see the medicine man. 154 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,553 - Maybe you'll learn something, Daddy. - | wouldn't be a bit surprised. 155 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,156 \{0'Connell) With Jimmy Stewart, they were very, very good friends. 156 00:10:26,319 --> 00:10:30,597 And the reason that he loved using him so much is that... 157 00:10:30,759 --> 00:10:33,557 he typifies the ordinary man. 158 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,236 So that a man goes to the movies with his wife, 159 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:42,915 he can sort of imagine him doing the things up on the screen , 160 00:10:43,079 --> 00:10:46,992 because Jimmy Stewart, you know, reminded bim of himself. 161 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:49,275 Just a minute. Just a minute. 162 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,908 | want you to take these. They'll relax you. 163 00:10:52,079 --> 00:10:55,276 Relax me? I'm so relaxed, I'm tired. 164 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,149 (Coleman) Then Hitch started talking about casting his wife, 165 00:10:59,319 --> 00:11:03,198 and he had made up his mind he wanted Doris Day. 166 00:11:03,359 --> 00:11:06,795 And | didn't want Doris Day cos | only knew her as a singer. 167 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:09,075 She's a beautiful singer and a beautiful voice, 168 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,435 but | knew her as a singer with those famous bands. 169 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:16,037 And | was afraid she couldn't do the dramatic scenes in Marrakech , 170 00:11:16,199 --> 00:11:20,431 where she finds that her son has been kidnapped. 171 00:11:26,079 --> 00:11:30,311 And so | fought Hitch constantly against her, but he finally won out 172 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,632 and cast her, and she turned out to be absolutely perfect for that scene. 173 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,554 They've taken him away. 174 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,518 But Mrs Drayton brought him back to the hotel. 175 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:44,638 Mrs Drayton never got back to the hotel. Neither did Hank. 176 00:11:44,799 --> 00:11:46,630 - But Mr Drayton - - Listen, Jo. 177 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,917 Mr Drayton checked out of the hotel 40 minutes ago. 178 00:11:50,079 --> 00:11:52,115 Now come on, Jo. Now sit down. 179 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:54,952 How dare you! You gave me sedatives! 180 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,509 Sit down. (Sobbing) 181 00:11:57,680 --> 00:11:59,591 - Jo, please. - Why didn't you tell me? 182 00:11:59,759 --> 00:12:02,956 - | wasn't sure until now. - You did! You did! 183 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,112 \{0'Connell) The sequence where Doris Day is given the drug 184 00:12:06,279 --> 00:12:10,477 before Jimmy Stewart tells her that their son has been kidnapped... 185 00:12:10,639 --> 00:12:14,552 Doris Day was excellent in that. She was wonderful in that. 186 00:12:14,719 --> 00:12:18,951 And that's when he realised what a good actress she was. 187 00:12:19,519 --> 00:12:22,079 - (Mumbling) - Jo, please. Jo. 188 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,912 Where is he, Ben? 189 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,392 (Hayes) I felt the relationship between the husband and wife 190 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:34,074 was a reasonably sound relationship. 191 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,994 They loved each other. They had their spats now and then. 192 00:12:38,159 --> 00:12:41,788 She made the decision to marry a doctor in a small town... 193 00:12:41,959 --> 00:12:44,678 instead of staying on the stage. 194 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,308 So she had... He didn't force her to. 195 00:12:47,479 --> 00:12:52,872 She may have regrets about it, but she was solely responsible. 196 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,271 Honey? 197 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,560 Now we don't have much time. You'll have to get up and start getting ready. 198 00:13:01,719 --> 00:13:04,916 Please, Jo. 199 00:13:05,079 --> 00:13:07,877 Please, Jo. 200 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,316 (Man) | was at Paramount, and 1 was kind of under contract there, 201 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:16,872 and | was doing a picture called Vagabond King. 202 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,238 And Bob Burks was the cameraman. 203 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,631 And, of course, Bob had worked with Hitchcock. 204 00:13:23,799 --> 00:13:26,871 And apparently, Hitch asked Bob, he says, 205 00:13:27,039 --> 00:13:31,032 "You know of any young art directors you think I'd get along with?” 206 00:13:31,199 --> 00:13:33,076 And he says, "Yeah, I'm working with one right now.” 207 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,556 In my wildest dreams, | never thought I'd ever work with Alfred Hitchcock. 208 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:43,318 | had a meeting with him, and we got along fine. 209 00:13:43,479 --> 00:13:47,313 And so he chose me to do The Man Who Knew Too Much. 210 00:13:47,479 --> 00:13:51,074 It was, it was quite an experience, and, gee, it was hot. 211 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,275 You just couldn't stand on the tarmac, you had to get in the shade. 212 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,078 Towards the end of the picture, 213 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:02,234 Hitch was directing from the front seat of an old Chevrolet. 214 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:05,471 The driver would honk the horn, and then the assistant would come over 215 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:08,676 and Hitch would tell him what they wanted him to do. I'll never forget. 216 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,315 In those days, we all - especially with Hitch - 217 00:14:12,479 --> 00:14:14,470 we aff wore suits and ties. 218 00:14:15,079 --> 00:14:17,752 You know, nowadays, you got to look like you're shot out of a cannon. 219 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,435 They'd think you were off to a funeral if you wore a jacket and a tie. 220 00:14:21,599 --> 00:14:26,354 But Marrakech was the first time I've ever seen Hitch in a T-shirt 221 00:14:27,319 --> 00:14:30,117 But it was buttoned right up . But it was short-sleeved. 222 00:14:30,279 --> 00:14:32,588 And he was cute, | remember. 223 00:14:32,759 --> 00:14:35,478 And the flies buzzing around. He was... (Blows) 224 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:40,315 He could do it better than me, but he was blowing the flies off of him. 225 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,679 (Coleman) When Hitch came to Marrakech, 226 00:14:44,839 --> 00:14:50,038 he said, "Ask Doc to send down some Dover sole from London.” 227 00:14:50,199 --> 00:14:52,554 And | said, "Hitch, you won't have to have it sent down from London.” 228 00:14:52,719 --> 00:14:55,153 | said, "We're gonna take you to dinner tonight, 229 00:14:55,719 --> 00:14:58,028 and they have the best Dover sole in the world.” 230 00:14:58,199 --> 00:15:01,396 He said, I don't believe it.” So, we went to this restaurant. 231 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,679 We walked in and, of course, everybody was sitting on the floor. 232 00:15:04,839 --> 00:15:08,195 (Chuckles) He says, "You mean | gotta sit on the floor?” 233 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,911 I said, "No, they have another room for people that want tables.” 234 00:15:17,479 --> 00:15:20,710 That scene was always in, but Hitch decided to do it that way 235 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,553 when he saw the way people sat on the floor. 236 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,799 \{O'Connell\} | think my father always wanted to have humour in his pictures. 237 00:15:33,959 --> 00:15:35,790 And in The Man Who Knew Too Much, 238 00:15:35,959 --> 00:15:40,430 obviously the greatest humour is the eating in the restaurant. 239 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,031 (All Laughing\} 240 00:15:43,199 --> 00:15:47,272 And | think he and Jimmy just worked that out. 241 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,433 Boy, could | use this hand now. | can't... 242 00:15:51,599 --> 00:15:53,715 It's all right. Nobody minds. No one minds. 243 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,871 (Stewart) I play the part of an American doctor. 244 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,755 Doris Day's my wife. 245 00:15:58,919 --> 00:16:01,149 And the story's about our trip abroad 246 00:16:01,319 --> 00:16:04,470 that started out as a holiday and ended up as a nightmare. 247 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,949 \{Whistle Blowing) 248 00:16:10,599 --> 00:16:13,397 Hey, hey, look there. 249 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,440 You'd better stand back. Go on. Stand back. 250 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,716 (O'Connell) When Louis Bernard is murdered, 251 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,509 my father wanted the paint on his face to come off 252 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:25,999 on Jimmy Stewart's hands. 253 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:30,471 They made many tests, but the make-up would not come off. 254 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:34,154 So, finally, Daniel Gelin, who portrayed the victim, 255 00:16:34,319 --> 00:16:36,549 came up with a great idea. 256 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,790 He said, "Jimmy Stewart should have white powder on his hands, 257 00:16:40,959 --> 00:16:44,747 And that's how they did it, and it looks very convincing. 258 00:16:57,319 --> 00:16:59,958 (Coleman) As Ramadan came closer and closer, 259 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,636 and the people began to realise it, we rushed all of Hitchcock's work 260 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:06,790 to have it done before Ramadan. 261 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:11,635 And as soon as he finished, then he flew out for London 262 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:14,074 to get ready to work in the Royal Albert Hall, 263 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:19,189 And | started my work there, and | had about ten days work there, 264 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:23,876 but after the fifth day, we were now in the third day of Ramadan, 265 00:17:24,039 --> 00:17:26,473 and the people were getting very unruly. 266 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:32,158 On the fourth morning when | arrived, there were armed, uniformed soldiers 267 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:34,753 on the roofs of all the buildings... 268 00:17:34,919 --> 00:17:37,558 to be able to control the crowd. 269 00:17:37,719 --> 00:17:40,358 And we started working, but before noon, 270 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,830 the superintendent said to me, "Mr Coleman, will you please stop now, 271 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,560 because I'm not going to be able to control the people.” 272 00:17:46,719 --> 00:17:50,314 We had to stop. | had, oh, | guess two or three days work left, 273 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,198 but we had what we needed. 274 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:54,551 And that was just the beginning. 275 00:17:54,719 --> 00:17:56,198 From there, we flew to London, 276 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:59,477 for backgrounds of a whole strange series of events 277 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,758 that ended up that final night in the great concert hall, 278 00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:06,149 where the cue for murder... 279 00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:08,787 was one single crash of the cymbals. 280 00:18:11,199 --> 00:18:14,794 (Coleman) Before | arrived in London, I sent Kay Selby, 281 00:18:15,399 --> 00:18:18,232 who was the head of the Paramount office in London, 282 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,551 the scenes about the taxidermist shop. 283 00:18:21,719 --> 00:18:24,358 And when we arrived, she said, "I have it all set for you, 284 00:18:24,519 --> 00:18:26,430 to go and see the taxidermist shop.” 285 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,591 So, we got in our car and drove to a place. 286 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,469 We got out of the car, and | looked at this beautiful, great, big glass window, 287 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:37,350 a beautiful polished wooden floor, with white bear rugs on the floor, 288 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,114 and heads and things all on the walls. 289 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,238 A beautiful place. Not what we wanted at all. 290 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,756 And Kay Selby went into the office and brought out a man in a tail coat, 291 00:18:46,919 --> 00:18:49,387 and with morning clothes, you know, 292 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,189 and introduced me to him and he says, 293 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,796 "Why can't you Americans do things in a proper English manner?” 294 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,474 You know, and | looked at him and said, "What do you mean?” 295 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,871 He said, "Why couldn't you have communicated with me directly?” 296 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:06,714 | said, "Kay, | don't have to listen to this kind of story. Let's go.” 297 00:19:06,879 --> 00:19:10,269 So, we turned and walked out. | said, "Kay, didn't you understand 298 00:19:10,439 --> 00:19:13,317 that this had to be in a working shop?” 299 00:19:13,479 --> 00:19:16,312 So she said, "I have one place for you to see.” 300 00:19:16,479 --> 00:19:20,870 “It's, it's in the low-rent district.” 301 00:19:21,519 --> 00:19:24,636 And we went out, and it was just ideal. 302 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:27,711 And the owner of this place, he said, "It's fine.” 303 00:19:27,879 --> 00:19:32,873 He says, | won't accept a penny from you. I'd like you to use my shop.” 304 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:34,870 Good afternoon, sir. 305 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:37,951 | am Ambrose Chappell. What can | do for you? 306 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,074 (O'Connell) My father loved to put 307 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,391 a few little red herrings in his pictures. 308 00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:48,711 Such as using the name "Ambrose Chappell,” 309 00:19:48,879 --> 00:19:50,870 and them thinking it was a taxidermist, 310 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:52,916 and then finding out it's a place. 311 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,277 William! Edgar! Davis! Help! 312 00:20:11,199 --> 00:20:13,030 (McKenna) I made a mistake. 313 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:18,228 \{O'Connell\} My father felt that he had to have a break in the suspense... 314 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:23,793 Because you can only take suspense for a certain amount of time. 315 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,350 It can't stay with you for an hour and a half, or a two hour movie. 316 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,351 You have to relieve it. 317 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,116 And one obvious example was Ambrose Chappell. 318 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,636 And then, you know, then they go on this wild-goose chase. 319 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:40,791 - Jo? - Ben, what happened? 320 00:20:40,959 --> 00:20:45,874 - No, it was a wild-goose chase. - It must be the chapel. | found it. 321 00:20:46,039 --> 00:20:47,518 It's just a short way from here. 322 00:20:47,679 --> 00:20:50,477 (Bumstead) Hitch was a master at going on location 323 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,515 and getting all the long shots and everything. 324 00:20:53,679 --> 00:20:56,716 And, in other words, he gets the meat on location, 325 00:20:56,879 --> 00:21:00,838 and then you do everything else back in the comfort of the stages. 326 00:21:06,319 --> 00:21:08,514 There it is. 327 00:21:08,679 --> 00:21:10,670 Whenever he shot the exterior of a building 328 00:21:10,839 --> 00:21:13,194 that | had to do the interior of, 329 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:18,308 | always went inside and took some photos and looked at the building, 330 00:21:18,479 --> 00:21:20,674 cos many times Hitch would ask me, 331 00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:24,548 ‘Bummy, does this set look anything like the interior of the building 332 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,359 we filmed the exterior of, you know?" 333 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,353 And apparently, he'd looked at it, you know, and I'd say "Yes". 334 00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:34,956 So, you know, | mean, | was very careful that way. 335 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:37,111 (Congregation Singing) 336 00:21:40,719 --> 00:21:43,597 \{Bumstead) One thing about Hitch, when you did a set for him, 337 00:21:43,759 --> 00:21:46,557 he shot the whole set, you know what | mean? 338 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,718 Some directors, you do a nice set, and they get themselves in the corner 339 00:21:50,879 --> 00:21:53,074 and all you ever see is the corner. 340 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,674 Well, this is a pleasant surprise, Doctor. 341 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,990 Where's my boy, Drayton? 342 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,390 He's upstairs. As a matter of fact, 343 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:03,073 you've come just in time to help my wife with his food. 344 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,596 It seems Hank doesn't care very much for our English cooking. 345 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,593 What do you want? I'll give you money. 346 00:22:09,759 --> 00:22:11,795 I'll keep my mouth shut. All | want is my boy. 347 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:17,034 And what about your wife? Did she go out just to get a breath of fresh air? 348 00:22:17,199 --> 00:22:21,112 (Bumstead) | learned how Hitch laid out shots, how he cut films. 349 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,636 You know, Hitch shot very little film, 350 00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:27,552 and there's really only one way you could put it together. 351 00:22:27,719 --> 00:22:30,677 | mean, from what | noticed, you know, 352 00:22:30,839 --> 00:22:33,876 he knew what he wanted to do so well. 353 00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:35,950 As far as we can make out, there's no sign of life. 354 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,952 - Report back here. - Very good, sir. 355 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,838 Walden, you standby till the car arrives from The Yard. 356 00:22:41,999 --> 00:22:45,309 - You're not leaving. - Orders. Can we give you a lift? 357 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,912 - Take me to Albert Hall. - I'm afraid it's a bit off our beat. 358 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,719 - We could drop you at a taxi rank. - Alright. 359 00:22:57,319 --> 00:22:59,708 My father, of course, knew the Albert Hall so well, 360 00:22:59,879 --> 00:23:02,677 because he was a great lover of music when he was, 361 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,115 you know, a young boy in England. 362 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,070 And he loved to use famous places in his movies. 363 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,514 He loved to travel early on. He and my mother loved travelling. 364 00:23:17,679 --> 00:23:21,035 And we would go to Switzerland almost every Christmas. 365 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,955 So, he would find a place, 366 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:29,636 and then he would see how he could incorporate it into the story. 367 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:42,235 \{Bumstead) We started shooting in Albert Hall and we shot in the lobby. 368 00:23:44,959 --> 00:23:47,678 And the long shots in the hall. 369 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:53,151 - Your tickets, madam? - I'm sorry. I'm looking for someone. 370 00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:56,072 And then |... We did the boxes, 371 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,074 and a lot of that stuff | reproduced back at the studio. 372 00:24:00,639 --> 00:24:05,349 Hitch liked to go up to a certain point, then I'd have to duplicate it back here. 373 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,953 (Applause) 374 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,798 \{Man) More than any of the other Herrmann-Hitchcock collaborations, 375 00:24:15,959 --> 00:24:19,076 music is almost a character in The Man Who Knew Too Much. 376 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,754 It's very important. It's right there in the opening titles, 377 00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:26,037 letting us know that music is going to be key to this story. 378 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,351 And, naturally, that was a wonderful opportunity for Bernard Herrmann, 379 00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:33,228 because he loved projects when music was featured very prominently, 380 00:24:33,399 --> 00:24:36,869 and it's a sign of just how much Hitchcock trusted Hermann... 381 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:40,031 after just one previous collaboration. 382 00:24:40,199 --> 00:24:43,635 The filming went very well, and the orchestra was very impressed 383 00:24:43,799 --> 00:24:46,916 with Bernard Herrmann's knowledge, his musicality, 384 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,550 his ability to work in both the film and concert media. 385 00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:55,436 After filming, the London Symphony gave him a book, which they inscribed, 386 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,239 "To Bernard Herrmann, the man who knows so much.” 387 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,115 1 think it's no accident that there is so little dramatic scoring 388 00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:05,596 in The Man Who Knew Too Much, because Herrmann knew... 389 00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:08,319 how important music was going to be at the climax, 390 00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,989 so he doesn’t over score the rest of the film. 391 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,838 In a way, he makes us wait for the big musical statement. 392 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,437 But there are a few wonderful cues before that sequence at the Albert Hall, 393 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:20,669 There's a very exciting main title, 394 00:25:20,839 --> 00:25:24,434 which utilises percussion very effectively and dramatically. 395 00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:38,558 And there are some very imaginative Herrmann cues throughout the score. 396 00:25:39,199 --> 00:25:41,633 For example, when they get the telephone call about the kidnapping, 397 00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:44,029 there's a wonderful cue that sort of looks ahead 398 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,113 to some of the Herrmann music for films like, say, Vertigo. 399 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,271 \{Phone Clicking) 400 00:25:57,919 --> 00:26:00,592 Or when Jimmy Stewart is going to the taxidermist, 401 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,718 there's a wonderful kind of music that Herrmann could write to suggest 402 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,792 the anxiety that people were feeling in this situation, 403 00:26:06,959 --> 00:26:11,271 as well as to make that anxiety be felt in the audience as well. 404 00:26:23,239 --> 00:26:26,072 But, by and large, Herrmann makes us wait 405 00:26:26,239 --> 00:26:31,154 until we reach the Albert Hall and finally music becomes part of the story. 406 00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:51,877 The original work was "The Storm Clouds Cantata,” 407 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:56,157 written by an Australian-born composer named Arthur Benjamin. 408 00:27:00,439 --> 00:27:06,150 Hitchcock gave Herrmann the chance to write a new concert work 409 00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:08,435 for the climax of the film, set at the Albert Hall, 410 00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:11,989 and it was a wonderful showpiece for a composer. 411 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,359 Most composers would have jumped at the chance to write something new. 412 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,750 But Bernard Herrmann so admired the music 413 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:21,910 that had been written by Arthur Benjamin 414 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:24,673 for the earlier 1934 version of The Man Who Knew Too Much, 415 00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,831 that he chose to keep that music. 416 00:27:27,999 --> 00:27:30,877 He said that he didn’t think anyone could write anything better 417 00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:32,950 than what Benjamin had done. 418 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,112 Herrmann did reorchestrate the music to some degree. 419 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,236 He made it bigger. He took advantage of the fact 420 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,953 that he had the London Symphony at his disposal. 421 00:27:47,239 --> 00:27:51,118 And | think it is even more effective in the remake than in the first film. 422 00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:00,432 (Hayes) In the end of that picture, Jimmy Stewart made a comment 423 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,115 that they threw out all of the dialogue in the Albert Hall scene. 424 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,669 Well, it's not true that they threw it out. 425 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,310 We had written a scene and written it with dialogue 426 00:28:10,479 --> 00:28:13,676 to see if we could do it silent or we needed the dialogue. 427 00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:15,670 And discovered we didn't need it. 428 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:18,592 We had it in case we needed it. 429 00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:33,837 (Smith) In the original film of The Man Who Knew Too Much, 430 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,956 we don't really see the conductor. 431 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,997 He isn't a character, if you will. 432 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,357 And when Hitchcock reimagined the sequence for the remake, 433 00:28:41,959 --> 00:28:45,952 he wanted to make the conductor more featured in the sequence. 434 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,998 Well, then, the question was, "Who do we hire to be the conductor?” 435 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,479 His choice was finally made, 436 00:28:50,639 --> 00:28:54,871 and I'm guessing it was Hitchcock's decision to use Bernard Herrmann, 437 00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:57,599 the man who was writing the score for the movie. 438 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,115 So, it becomes almost an in-joke, 439 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,317 that we have the composer of the dramatic score, 440 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,598 who is appearing as himself conducting the London Symphony, 441 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,354 and he's featured rather prominently in the sequence. 442 00:29:20,679 --> 00:29:25,469 The idea to have the cymbals play such an interesting role in the story, 443 00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:28,558 was inspired by a comic strip that showed a little man 444 00:29:28,719 --> 00:29:32,712 known as "the one-note man” in his daily routine - 445 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,916 getting up in the morning, going to work, 446 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,356 doing a single note with the cymbals and going back home. 447 00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:57,989 (Screams) 448 00:30:12,399 --> 00:30:14,390 (Screaming) 449 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,150 (Smith) Hitchcock needed a song for the film, 450 00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:24,355 since, after all, Doris Day was in the movie, 451 00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:27,352 and Paramount wanted a song more than Hitchcock did. 452 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,876 So, the team of Jay Livingstone and Ray Evans was brought in. 453 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:33,075 And Hitchcock met with them and told them very frankly 454 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,152 that Paramount wanted a song more than he did in the movie, 455 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:38,879 and he said, "I don't know what kind of song | want in the movie, 456 00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:41,030 so go write me a song.” 457 00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:44,869 They came back with the song Que Sera, Sera. 458 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:49,032 They played it for Hitchcock. He listened in somewhat stern silence, 459 00:30:49,639 --> 00:30:51,675 and at the end, he said to them, 460 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,513 "Gentleman, | told you I did not know what kind of song | wanted.” 461 00:30:54,679 --> 00:30:56,476 "Well, that's the kind of song | want.” 462 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,195 He walked out. That was it. The song was in the movie, 463 00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:02,157 and it proved to be a tremendous commercial success, 464 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,232 as well as | think a very dramatically effective one. 465 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,473 In fact, it won the Academy Award for the best song of 1956. 466 00:31:09,639 --> 00:31:14,190 # Que sera, sera 467 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,148 # Whatever will be will be 468 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:21,675 (Hayes) We consciously thought about Doris Day, 469 00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:25,115 uh, in relationship with her husband, 470 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,273 as far as leaving the professional circuit that she did. 471 00:31:29,439 --> 00:31:31,430 And she missed something in her life. 472 00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:36,150 And as the events took place, she got it back, 473 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,880 at least for a short time. 474 00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:42,315 # The future's not ours to see 475 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,950 # Que sera, sera 476 00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:49,236 # What will be, will be # 477 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,391 We accomplished everything we set out to do 478 00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:53,197 in The Man Who Knew Too Much. 479 00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:58,313 I don't think we gave up anything at all. 480 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,472 (O'Connell) I loved the movie The Man Who Knew Too Much. 481 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,835 | didn't remember the first one, because | was too young, 482 00:32:04,439 --> 00:32:05,872 so | loved the second one. 483 00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:08,837 That's one of my favourite movies. 484 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,719 Movies meant a tremendous amount to my father and my mother, 485 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:16,914 cos that was their life. 486 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,835 We keep going to see his movies because they are pure entertainment. 487 00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:25,630 (Bumstead) He was a master filmmaker. 488 00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:29,428 On every film | worked with Hitch, he knew every shot - 489 00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:32,477 every shot really was in his mind. 490 00:32:33,479 --> 00:32:36,471 I remember Hitch is sitting there, you know, 491 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,710 and they're lighting, 492 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,235 and | said, "Hitch, what are you thinking about?” 493 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,429 And he says, "I am thinking about my next film.”